Ira Glass


'Fans listen in the driveway, not leaving the car until the show is through. They schedule their day around it. They even buy the wonky comic book that Glass and his staff created about the making of the show.'


Radio's Ira Glass,
an 'American Life' 

Master storyteller who talks to listeners as friends
   
By Gabriel Spitzer

   "I don’t really like stuff which is ‘good for me’ very much," says Ira Glass.
    Glass would rather tell you a good story than teach you a lesson.
    Glass is the creator and host of Public Radio International’s "This American Life," a weekly documentary radio program out of WBEZ in Chicago.
    So much of public radio fare is like medicine. Even at its best, it’s often St. Joseph’s Aspirin, medicine disguised as candy.
    Perhaps that’s why "This American Life," which Glass hosts, is the hottest show on public radio and one of the most thoughtful, funny and innovative programs anywhere on the dial.
    The show’s weekly audience has doubled over the last two years, to 1.1 million listeners each week. It is now carried on 417 stations across the country.
    Most striking is how devoted the show’s fans are. The average listening time for an hour-long program on public radio is about 15 minutes. The average listening time for "This American Life" is about 48 minutes.
   Fans listen in the driveway, not leaving the car until the show is through. They schedule their day around it. They even buy the wonky comic book that Glass and his staff created about the making of the show.
   "We’re making a show that pleases us, with the thought that there will be enough other people like us that it will have an audience," says Glass.
   Flip through the low end of the dial on Saturday or Sunday—if you come upon "This American Life," you’ll recognize it immediately.
    Part of the show’s signature is Glass’s voice. Halting, youthful, replete with pauses and interjections like "you know," and "do I have to spell this out?" Glass talks on radio the way he talks to his friends.
   The stories on "This American Life" are told. That seems like an odd thing to say, but so many stories in radio, television or print are just there. The teller is invisible.
    "There is a tradition in American journalism where the reporter is present as a character in the story. Weirdly, in sports journalism it’s completely standard practice. In other kinds of journalism it’s much rarer," says Glass.
   "There’s a nervousness in newspapers and television stations; they want to be taken seriously, and that neurosis ends up dictating a certain style. I don’t understand why there has to be such nervousness; it’s not like they’re going out and making stuff up. They don’t have to get pompous about it for us to believe them."
     As the show’s writers and producers tell a story, there is usually some moment of empathy, where the storyteller, and the listener, have no choice but to identify with the subject, be it a telephone psychic or a man who stands for three days with his hand on a truck.
   "I feel that from empathy you get more information. In certain stories, the writer has a hard time not making fun of the subject. There have been a couple of cases where, through unsuccessful editing, we didn’t manage to eradicate it, and I always regret it."
   "This American Life" once did a story about single farmers, and how difficult it is for them to meet other single farmers. So they form groups, often traveling hundreds of miles to meet other "available" agriculturalists.
    "At one point, the writer just observed how awkward these people are with each other, in a very high-school way. There’s a way to render the scene so that we imagine being them, and a way to render the scene so they’re just kind of funny. And I think we leaned too hard on the it’s-just-kind-of-funny side. I just find that approach wrongheaded."
    For the show’s 100th episode, Glass and his staff produced a show simply titled "Radio." For one of the pieces, called "The Radio that Most People Listen To," Glass visited a local rock station, to watch the science of commercial radio at work.
    As with most commercial radio, the station figures its playlist through telephone polling. If a song doesn’t test well with the target audience, it’s out.
    "I don’t get inside rock stations much. The way they program their station was very different from all the principles by which I’m doing my job," Glass recalls.
    "This station was targeted toward middle-aged African-American women. It’s all about what songs those women already like, and then they create a mix of songs that those women will stay tuned for."
    Glass came out of that story much more sympathetic to commercial radio than he thought he would. Actually, he found the process oddly democratic.
    "There’s a really easy thing that one could do in a story like that, which is to dismiss the commercial broadcasters, and dismiss what most people like. Whereas, most things that most people like, I like. I listen to the Howard Stern show every day. My favorite TV shows are ‘The West Wing’ and ‘The Simpsons.’ I don’t have any reason to look down on anyone’s taste.
   "I think middle-aged black women should be able to turn on the radio and hear songs they like. That’s a public service, that makes everybody feel better. Who else is looking out for this population of women? It’s not like the city of Chicago is going out of its way to provide entertainment in the middle of the day."

April 5, 2001 © 2001 Media Life


-Gabriel Spitzer is a staff writer for Media Life.


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